Noctuoid moths (except Arctiinae)
This moth sub-category for the superfamily Noctuoidea contains the large families Noctuidae and Erebidae as well the smaller Euteliidae, Nolidae, Notodontidae and Oenosandridae. The Arctiinae also belong to this superfamily, but are distinctive and well known so are given their own moth sub-category
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WendyEM
wrote:
Yesterday
It is actually fairly small, < 12mm. It has very short pectinate antenna. I wonder if it is a Psychid? Shape looks quite like Trigonocyttara clandestina although I think that sp. is much bigger than this moth. I am still looking.
Unverified Noctuoid moth (except Arctiinae)
ibaird
wrote:
Yesterday
Yes. it was simply my best suggestion based apparently on a squared off abdomen and a transverse white band visible in the 5th image - although I suspect that 5th image is a view from the underside. Yes, I have been looking without success. P. carbo does not have forewings with trailing margins with a feathery fringe.
Unverified Noctuoid moth (except Arctiinae)
WendyEM
wrote:
Yesterday
I don't think it is Pataeta carbo as that sp has an angle 1/2way along the termen and a scalloped edge rather than the long sweeping curve above moth shows. Also in none of the 1st page of iNat research grade images of this moth (96 records) does it rest with its wings covering the abdomen, but rather resting beside the abdomen.
https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/observations?place_id=6744&preferred_place_id=6744&quality_grade=research&taxon_id=210483
I have done A LOT of looking for an alternative and not found a convincing one so far however.
https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/observations?place_id=6744&preferred_place_id=6744&quality_grade=research&taxon_id=210483
I have done A LOT of looking for an alternative and not found a convincing one so far however.
Unverified Noctuoid moth (except Arctiinae)
ibaird
wrote:
28 Feb 2026
Agreed, likely to be Pataeta carbo though, based particulalrly on the second image shape.
Pataeta carbo
WendyEM
wrote:
27 Feb 2026
AnneliesePhillips, do you have a way to crop the second (both) image closer to the moth and add that to the record? I tried myself but hit an error. I can't see enough detail to ID this, Wendy
Pataeta carbo
Significant sightings
- Agrotis infusa at Ainslie, ACT
- Proteuxoa sp. (03) (MoV, Part 9) at Harrison, ACT
- Hymeninae sp, (2) (MoV) at Bulli, NSW
- Nola tornotis at Bulli, NSW
- Earias smaragdina at Rosedale, NSW
- Pherechoa crypsichlora at Melba, ACT
- Spodoptera mauritia at Bargo, NSW
- Hypeninae sp. (3) (MoV Part8) (Erebidae (Hypeninae))
- Paromphale caeca (Acronictinae) at Jerrabomberra, NSW
- Proteuxoa sp. (17) (MoV, Part 9) at Tathra, NSW
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